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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Gods of the inner world. Reply with quote

I've been thinking about this for some time, and I think I will put a tribe of lost vikings in my Hollow Earth, not only that but through the use of Atlantean technology they have uplifted themselves to the lofty heights of godhood.

The basic idea is that during the last ice age two tribes (Aesir & Vanir) found them selves on the edge of extinction. Instead of heading south with the other tribes, these two warring tribes pushed north and discovered an opening to the Hollow Earth, facing the harsh primal Hel of the inner world, these great enemies were forced to become allies. They called the prehistoric beast they discovered down there the Jotun, and after many battles they became legends. It was during this time that they discovered the atlanteans, and the technology they aquired allowed them to return to the surface world but only for brief periods, and thus the gods were born.

This will be a matter of great importance for the Nazies, but what side these guys come down on I'm not sure, maybe they will be impartial fearing that if they were to become involved Ragnarök would be hastened.
For me personly I just love the image of the Valkyrie riding in on Pterosaurs.

What do you guys think, any ideas or sugestions would be welcome. Wink


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very intriguing, I would love to here more when you flesh out some more details.

As far as who's side they are on, maybe only thier own, they are gods in their own right after all. Razz
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not exactly the angle I was going to take with my write-up of the Vikings, but I think you're off to a good start there.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I've done stuff on adapting other cultures to the Inner Earth and.... SAAAAY. Aesir? Vanir? Somebody here a closet REH fan? C'mon. Fess up.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, REH didn't invent the names. He pulled them from the original Norse.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, REH didn't invent the names. He pulled them from the original Norse.


True enough, but if I named a character Gandaulf would people tell me I'm a Norse fan or would they think I'm a LOTR fan?

It's all in good fun though. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Truth is both an REH long time fan and very into all mythology, but the Norse stuff is just way cool, it's like an ancient soap opera. On the subject of names , should I go with wagnerian (Germanic) and Wotan/Woden or classic and Odin? Any ideas on how to handle the Atlantean artifacts that give the gods their powers? Actualy any help or ideas would be welcome. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On the subject of names , should I go with wagnerian (Germanic) and Wotan/Woden or classic and Odin?


It all depends really. The classic names would be more recognizable, and register more quickly with players. The Wagnerian might be good to make it more unusual. Either works, but be sure to stick consistently to one. Don't want a Wotan and Odin running around at the same time.

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Any ideas on how to handle the Atlantean artifacts that give the gods their powers?


I recommend they be related to Norse artefacts, but be substantially different. For example, Gungnir (Odin's spear that never misses) could be a spear that seeks the target once thrown. That's a literal, boring translation. You could make it a staff that shoots highly accurate lasers that burn through walls. Just think, "If a primitive human saw it, how would they classify it?"

Day of the Gods, by Lester Del Ray, features the Norse gods as highly advanced being weilding technology mistaken for magic. For an even better book, try Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny. Here people deliberately masquerade as gods using technology.[/i]
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gandalf was originally the name of a dwarf in the Poetic (or Prose) Edda. REH wasn't the only one to borrow names from the past.

edit: I would throw in Mythos deities for Hollow Earth beliefs. CAS' Hyperborea has many excellent examples of interactions with less than cheerful gods.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeh I already put some Cthonic types into my game, when one of my players went to mars, I really like that kind of cross pollination in pulps, its the whole reason the mythos became "The Mythos" Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you read these Hyperborea stories by CAS:

The Door to Saturn
The Seven Geases
The Tale of Satampra Zeiros
The Weird of Avoosal Wuthoqquan

A lot of handy material on Mythos deities and weird underground entities.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I haven't, shamed to say I'm a bit of a Howard snob, if he didn't write it I won't read it... lol Wink

Actualy if memory serves, are the stories set in Howards world but that don't feature Conan? If so I've been meaning to check them out.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hyperborea is somewhat like Hyboria. REH, HPL and CAS were correspondents and shared many ideas and variations on aspects of the Mythos. To entice you, you may read the stories legally and for free here:
The Door to Saturn
The Seven Geases
The Tale of Satampra Zeiros
The Weird of Avoosal Wuthoqquan


I am just asking you to give them a try. While I like REH a lot, Clark Ashton Smith is a wizard with words and unique ideas. Beware, he also read the Oxford English Dictionary, the vocabulary can be intense. The Seven Geases would be the basis for a great game in the Hollow Earth.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah right we're on the same page now, I'll give them a look. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And I don't want to sound like I am talking down with the vocabulary. I have taught English as a second language in a variety of places and some of those words kill me, Smith's mastery of English is monumental considering he didn't finish junior high and also taught himself French and Spanish.

If you ever just read one story, The Seven Geases is a trip into the depths of the Earth.
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